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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 2:22 pm

A house-keeping note; some recent additions to the TME map.

Dolni Glavanak Cromlech in Bulgaria.

Atlit Yam, the ancient submerged Neolithic village off the coast of Atlit, Israel.

Gilgal Refā'īm or Rujm el-Hiri, the Wheel of Giants

“The stone heap of the wild cat” later known as Gilgal Refaim “wheel of giants”.
In Kings 18:30-35, we can read how the prophet Elijah repaired a stone circle:
“..Elijah took twelve stones..and built an altar … and he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two measures of seed, … and he filled the trench with water.”


That sounds like a Henge to me. It’s another curious coincidence that this stone circle tradition in ancient Israel so closely matches the same tradition in north western Europe. Saul was crowned in a stone circle, because the Jewish traditional ritual of king-making included holy stones. As did the Welsh and Scots. That was, at least, until 1296 when Edward the First of England “acquired” the Stone of Scone from Moot Hill and took it to Westminster Abbey. In slightly dubious circumstances, and there seems to be a good chance the Scots had enough forewarning to fob Edward off with a substitute.

In Westminster Abbey, the (or a) stone became an essential part of the coronation of English Kings and Queens to this day; they have to be crowned while sitting above the Stone of Scone. The origin of this custom in Britain is said to be the “Stone of Israel”, and the “pillow of Jacob”. According to tradition,

“Jacob’s descendants kept the stone as a sacred national treasure until, when the Israel nation fell, its guardians fled with it to Ireland. There for nearly a thousand years the Kings of Ireland were crowned while seated on it. It was then taken to Scotland and used for the same purpose until Edward I took it to Westminster.”


A fantastic fairy story? Perhaps, but our current Royal Family still believes a Jewish tradition is an essential part of what gives them authority. Perhaps that's why Prince Charles (and a few generations that came before him) had been circumcised by a Jewish Mohel (the licensed remover of foreskins), but that might all be idle gossip.


Ref: Grael Britannia, Hidden Circles.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 11:54 am

One more addition to the TME map.

The Avoca mines

The Avoca mines were mined for copper and associated products dating back probably to Roman times, Ptolemy’s map of Ireland in AD 150 marks Oboka (Avoca), suggesting that the Romans knew of the Wicklow ore. According to Mulvihill “the Anglo-Normans and the Elizabethans all had mines there”.

http://www.countywicklowheritage.org/pa ... west_avoca


Excavations during the 1990s, under archaeologist Dr William O'Brien, revealed that Killarney's earliest copper mines - which are little more than shallow caves in the rock wall at Ross Island - are 4,500 years old, the oldest known in northwest Europe. Arguably, Ireland's Bronze Age began here.

Ross Island copper has a distinctive chemical fingerprint, and archaeologists have found Bronze Age artefacts in Britain made of this metal, proof that Killarney had strong trade links with Britain then, and that its mineral riches were widely known.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/forgott ... s-1.349867
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 11:34 am

Just back from a virtual visit to Krakow in Poland.
Now added to the TME Map.

Krakus and Wanda Mounds

Excavations conducted in mid-1930s revealed that the mound consists of a solid wooden core covered with soil and turf. ... Similar to other ancient structures, such as Stonehenge, the Krakus Mound may have been constructed with astronomy in mind. If one stands on the Krakus Mound and looks towards Wanda Mound at sunrise on the morning of Beltane, the second-largest Celtic feast day, one will see the sun rise directly over Wanda Mound.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakus_Mound

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Mound
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 7:17 pm

Good news chaps!
More TME map additions.

Newark Earthworks

The Newark Earthworks in Newark and Heath, Ohio, consist of three sections of preserved earthworks: the Great Circle Earthworks, the Octagon Earthworks, and the Wright Earthworks. This complex, built by the Hopewell culture between 100 AD and 500 AD, contains the largest earthen enclosures in the world, being about 3,000 acres in extent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark_Earthworks


The 1,054-foot (321 m) wide Newark Great Circle is one of the largest circular earthwork in the Americas, at least in construction effort. A 5-foot (1.5 m) deep moat is encompassed by walls that are 8 feet (2.4 m) high; at the entrance, the dimensions are even more grand. Researchers have used archaeogeodesy and archaeoastronomy to analyze the placements, alignments, dimensions, and site-to-site interrelationships of the earthworks. This research has revealed that the prehistoric cultures in the area had advanced scientific understanding as the basis of their complex construction.

Fifty acres total, the Octagon Earthworks consists of an Observatory Mound, Observatory Circle, and the interconnected Octagon span nearly 3,000 feet (910 m) in length. It has eight 550-foot (170 m)-long walls, from 5 feet (1.5 m) to 6 feet (1.8 m) high. The Octagon Earthworks are joined by parallel walls to a circular embankment enclosing 20 acres (8.1 ha). In 1982 researchers from Earlham College in Richmond, Indiana concluded that the complex was a lunar observatory, designed to track motions of the moon, including the northernmost point of the 18.6-year cycle of the lunar orbit. When viewed from the observatory mound the moon rises at that time within one-half of a degree of the octagon's exact center. The earthwork is twice as precise as the complex at Stonehenge (assuming Stonehenge is an observatory, which is a disputed theory)


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Cahokia Mound City, with a large Wood Henge

The park covers 2,200 acres (890 ha), or about 3.5 square miles (9 km2), and contains about 80 mounds, but the ancient city was much larger. In its heyday, Cahokia covered about 6 square miles (16 km2) and included about 120 manmade earthen mounds in a wide range of sizes, shapes, and functions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia


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Curiously, Cahokia is on a similar latitude to Delphi, so may share the same 3/7th Fractional Latitude.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby hvered » 7:57 pm

Cahokia is on a similar latitude to Delphi, so may share the same 3/7th Fractional Latitude.

It seems to have been an important city sprawled across a large area near three rivers; according to the Wiki article you referred to
Cahokia was located in a strategic position near the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri and Illinois rivers.

Delhi too occupied a stragegic location on a trading route but that's normal for cities.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby TisILeclerc » 8:47 pm

Oh look brother.
Shhh

No, I mean it look.

Shhh. Haven't you learned anything yet?

Well yes but why don't we run up that mound and take it for ourselves.

What for? So we can capture the silence or sommat.

Last one up's a Cistercian.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia#Monks_Mound

They'll never know that we've been here. Or what we were doing.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 9:00 pm

TisILeclerc wrote:Last one up's a Cistercian


You can't Trappe me that easily.

The order takes its name from La Trappe Abbey or La Grande Trappe, located in the French province of Normandy. A reform movement began there in 1664, in reaction to the relaxation of practices in many Cistercian monasteries.


Any connections there might be with the Tironensian monastic order are yet to be established?

Only a fleeting connection of course(?) to the Von Trapp movement. They were too busy singing (high on a hill, with a lonely goat herd) and didn't get to the USA until 1938.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby TisILeclerc » 9:17 pm

No flies on you Borry.

Here's a free sea trip for you.

https://squirrelbasket.wordpress.com/20 ... to-caldey/

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You've got to keep the doors open to let the swallows in and out.

One swallow does not a bottle make.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 12:02 am

Thumbs-up to Tisi.
Tut-tut to me.
Fancy me forgetting wot I writ earlier.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2&p=6012&hilit=Tironensian#p6012
hvered wrote:Why are there so many French names on Caldey Island? Is it something to do with Cistercian monks getting their hands dirty here?


Close. It now looks like they might have been Tironensian monks from France, who prided themselves on doing the building work. See also the Tironensian Abbey of St.Dogmael, close to Cardigan, coincidentally on the same line of longitude.

The first house of the order in Wales was St Dogmaels, Pembrokeshire, which was founded c. 1113. Soon therafter it established two daughter-houses in Pembrokeshire, namely, Pill and Caldy.


http://www.monasticwales.org/order/6

For these reasons, I've just added St.Dogmael to the TME map.
https://tme.cartodb.com/tables/the_mega ... empire/map

The order's first house in Wales, St Dogmaels, Pembrokeshire, which was established on the site of a clas (early Celtic church), which dated back to at least 600 AD.

In Scotland, the Tironensians were the monks and master craftsmen who built and occupied (until the Reformation) the abbeys of Selkirk (later re-located to Kelso (1128), Arbroath (1178), and Kilwinning (1140+).

The abbey (Tiron in France) owned at least one ship that traded in Scotland and Northumberland.

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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Mick Harper » 12:26 am

No clas there according to us but you can be the judge

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Though a Roman coin hoard was uncovered, the early medieval period is somewhat undeveloped
A possible earlier monastic enclosure observed as a line of continuous property boundaries may or may not contain a curving bank. Recorded archaeology mainly consists of standing structures and buildings but also included are the early medieval inscribed stones, which testify to the significance of St Dogmaels’ religious heritage

Two of these have inscriptions. The first was discovered in 1694 when it was acting as a footbridge over a stream in the grounds of the modern abbey and reads Of Sagranus, son of Cunotamus. It has been identified as fifth or early sixth century on palaeographical grounds. The second, discovered in use as a gatepost in a nearby farm has the letters D and I. and is somewhat later in style.
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